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1 Service Receive Methods on Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:45 am

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For smooth rubbers



For long pips

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2 Re: Service Receive Methods on Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:50 pm

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Short return


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3 Re: Service Receive Methods on Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:39 am

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Short sidespin serve return




Long sidespin serve return

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4 Re: Service Receive Methods on Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:47 pm

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Tomahawk serve return

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5 Re: Service Receive Methods on Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:51 pm

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crappy.... i cannot view these videos while onboard a drillship.

i'm sure they are pretty useful for learning. thanks Dryvuuu. Happy

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6 Re: Service Receive Methods on Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:12 pm

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You're welcome. I find these videos useful as returning serves can be a pain in the a**. I hope at least some forumers share our views.

By the way what are you doing onboard a drillship on Chinese New Year?

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7 Re: Service Receive Methods on Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:49 pm

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i find it quite manageable tho. returning serves have 2 aspects IMO:

1. reading the spin direction correctly from opponent's serve action.
gotto judge the axis of rotation as well.
if i did not return it properly, its probably due to this element.

2. choosing a proper return technique.
one can either reverse the spin, go along with it (thus increasing the rotation)
or nullify with, maybe, side spin or just hit through the spin if its weak.

this will depend on one's skill sets already. not evybody have the skills to have 4 choice
of returning the serve. some things just require effort to learn & train for.

i am doing hull preservation survey onboard the drill ship.

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8 Re: Service Receive Methods on Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:04 pm

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Good tips but practicing/learning how to receive serve can be very difficult. I don't see many player who are willing to 'reveal' his 'main' serves (aka secret weapons) just so someone else can learn how to return them. You will only learn/practise when you play matches & the 'hard way'. lol
The disguise in serve can also pose some problems just as when you're facing unfamiliar players. 2 different players may have the same serve but they are not identical.

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9 Re: Service Receive Methods on Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:06 am

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Reading and returning tricky penhold serves

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10 Re: Service Receive Methods on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:32 am

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I had a chat with Ah Yu (one of the best 5T players) last Monday & he was telling me about his experience on his recent matches at the National Veteran competition. He said he had problem receiving serve from one of the players (a chopper if my memory serves me correctly). He knew the direction of the spin (from the serve - no disguise) but whenever he returned, the ball 'just flew off' the bat. As you guessed it he lost the match. He mentioned about some factors on why he couldn't return those serves properly which reinforced what I had mentioned in my previous post in one way or another.

1. Even if you're familiar with the type of serve & the spin it produces, sometimes you still can't return properly - on the table that is! x

2. You need time to 'adapt' to the serves from unfamiliar players. If you took too long game over! big smile

3. The serves from different players can be the same - almost the same stroke/action but the difference in the spin can be huge! Shocked

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11 Re: Service Receive Methods on Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:08 pm

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to further what we have discussed, i know that the initial
spin direction after the 2 bounce may not be the same
by the time it reaches the receiver due to reaction to table friction.

this one is complex, i am still learning about it.
i think i should experiment a bit and get my partner
to comment cos he is victim ma. hahahaha! smile happy

Ah yu is good player eh !! if i play with him,
i will become monkey type. sweat

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12 Re: Service Receive Methods on Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:06 pm

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Yeah it is good to get your partner to comment.

"Monkey type" when playing with Ah Yu? Rest assured you're not the only one! lol
Oh and I believe he's taking it easy on us!

As you go up the playing level you're bound to encounter more problems & receiving serve is one of them.

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13 Re: Service Receive Methods on Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:30 pm

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Receive need soft touch.
Then we consider blade angle , hit n rubbing direction.
It also involve tactics ,eg :
- 2 bounce short is the best but what happen if opp know how to attack ?
- control the 2nd bounce just out of the table but what happen if opp know how to attack ?
- give a 'deep to the base line' but what happen if opp know how to attack ?
- widen the returning angle buy what happen if opp know how to cover?

Skill + Tactis = Result
'+' meaning Apply. How to apply the skill or select the skill depend on
adapt + flexibility .

Ah Yu good in soft touch n flexibility .

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14 Re: Service Receive Methods on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:11 pm

Sakuragi wrote:Receive need soft touch.
Then we consider blade angle , hit n rubbing direction.
It also involve tactics ,eg :
- 2 bounce short is the best but what happen if opp know how to attack ?
- control the 2nd bounce just out of the table but what happen if opp know how to attack ?
- give a 'deep to the base line' but what happen if opp know how to attack ?
- widen the returning angle buy what happen if opp know how to cover?

Skill + Tactis = Result
'+' meaning Apply. How to apply the skill or select the skill depend on
adapt + flexibility .

Ah Yu good in soft touch n flexibility .

hanamichi, you make 小游 very sexy ley...

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15 Re: Service Receive Methods on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:26 pm

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Sakuragi wrote:rubbing direction.
Ah Yu good in soft touch n flexibility .
Something is not quite right! Shocked tongue big smile

On a more serious note, I believe 'soft touch' is good for blocking.

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16 Re: Service Receive Methods on Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:07 pm

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In the book, Table Tennis - Tips From A World Champion, Werner Schlager mentioned that despite intensive analysis there were some players whose serves he simply couldn't read. This is either due to the extremely high quality serves or the variation took him by surprise again and again.

According to him Chen Qi & Vladimir Samsonov have the best serves!

PS: Even the ex-world champion 'struggles' with receiving serves from some players & isn't 'ashamed' to admit it.

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17 Re: Service Receive Methods on Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:28 pm

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Too bad no translation but you'll get the idea.

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